hi, I just joined as I have been curious about his for quite some time. However, I haven't been able to glean from this tribe what the different blood types represent. I'm Type O pos. What does that equate to? Anyone an expert on this. Moderator? Are you?
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moRe: New and Clueless
Wed, November 15, 2006 - 9:17 PMHi, WW, and welcome!
I'm not an expert, but I can explain this: there is a nutritional approach that is based upon the belief that as blood types evolved/developed when homo sapiens traveled out of Africa and settled in specific regions, the dietary options in those particular regions turned out to be best suited to those blood types. In other words, if you're a Type O (rhesus factor of pos/neg is not relevant for this), there are going to be certain foods for which you are genetically "wired." Eating a diet of these foods will help you maintain optimum health; and avoiding the foods that are not recommended for your blood type is equally important. The best resource would be Dr. Peter D'Adamo's books, but failing that, you can check out the various ER4YBT websites.
My own experience has been that when I stopped eating the foods that were in the "Avoid" category for me, my energy leveled soared and my persistent sinus congestion was alleviated.
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Re: moRe: New and Clueless
Thu, November 16, 2006 - 6:00 PMThank you. I'll do some research then. -
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Re: moRe: New and Clueless
Sat, November 18, 2006 - 7:18 AMThe author has a website loaded with info: www.dadamo.com
I can only say positive things about this "diet". I never knew what feeling healthy was until "Eating Right for my Type". -
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Re: moRe: New and Clueless
Mon, November 20, 2006 - 6:55 AMI went to the website and it wasn't very forthcoming. But I did google Type O and this is what I found...
Blood Type Diet - Type O
Type Os thrive on intense physical exercise and animal protein. Unlike the other blood types, Type Os muscle tissue should be slightly on the acid side. Type Os can efficiently digest and metabolize meat because they tend to have high stomach-acid content. The success of the Type O Diet depends on the use of lean, chemical-free meats, poultry, and fish. Type Os don't find dairy products and grains quite as user friendly as do most of the other blood types.
The initial weight loss on the Type O Diet is by restricting consumption of grains, breads, legumes, and beans. The leading factor in weight gain for Type Os is the gluten found in wheat germ and whole wheat products, which interferes with insulin efficiency and slow down metabolic rate. Another factor that contribute to weight gain is certain beans and legumes (lentils and kidney beans) contain lectins that deposit in the muscle tissues making them less "charged" for physical activity. The third factor in Type O weight gain is that Type Os have a tendency to have low levels of thyroid hormone or unstable thyroid functions, which also cause metabolic problems. Therefore it is good to avoid food that inhibits thyroid hormone (cabbage, brussels sprouts, cauliflower, mustard green) but increase hormone production (kelp, seafood, iodized salt).
Several classes of vegetables can cause big problems for Type Os, such as the Brassica family (cabbage, cauliflower, etc.) can inhibit the thyroid function. Eat more vegetables that are high in Vitamin K, which helps the clotting factor which is weak in Type Os. The nightshade vegetables can cause lectin deposit in the tissue surrounding the joints.
Because of the high acidity stomach, Type Os should eat fruits of alkaline nature such as berries and plums..
Type Os should severely restrict the use of dairy products. Their system is not designed for the proper metabolism. If you are a Type O of African ancestry, you should eliminate dairy foods and eggs altogether.
Characteristics of
Type O
Best on High Protein Diet
Thrive on intense physical exercise and animal proteins
Do not do well with dairy and grain products
Hardy digestive tract
The leading factor in weight gain for Type Os is the gluten found in wheat germ and whole wheat products.
Type O have a tendency to have low levels of thyroid hormone and unstable thyroid functions, which cause metabolic problems and weight gain.
Type O have high stomach-acid content, can digest meat easily.
Comments Most Beneficial Food allowed Food not allowed
The more stressful your job or demanding your exercise program, the higher the grade of protein you should eat Beef, Lam, Mutton, Veal, Venison
Protein Type Os can efficiently digest and metabolize meats
Any meat except for those listed not allowed Bacon, Ham, Goose, Pork
Cold-water fish are excellent for Type Os. Many seafoods are also excellent sources of iodine, which regulates the thyroid function. Cod, herring, Mackerel Any fish or seafood except for those listed not allowed Barracuda, Pickled herring, Catfish, Smoked salmon, Caviar, Octopus, Conch
Dairy Type Os need to severely restrict the use of dairy products and eggs
Butter, Farmer, Feta, Mozzarella, Goat cheese All other dairy products and yogurts
Fat Type Os respond well to oils Olive Oil, Flaxseed oil Canola oil, Sesame Oil Corn oil, Peanut oil, Cottonseed oil, Safflower oil
Nuts These foods should in no way take the place of high-protein meats, and they are high in fat especially if you are overweight. Pumpkin seeds, Walnuts All kinds except those listed not allowed Brazil, Cashew, Peanut, Pistachios, Poppy Seeds
Beans Type Os don't utilize beans particularly well. They tend to make muscle tissue slightly less acidic and inhibit the metabolism of other nutrients. Aduke beans, Azuki beans, Pinto beans, Black-eyed peas All kinds except those listed not allowed Beans - copper, kidney, navy, tamarine. Lentils - domestic, green, red.
Grains Type Os do not tolerate whole wheat products at all. Essene Bread, Ezekiel Bread Amaranth, Barley, Buckwheat, Rice, Kamut, Kasha, Millet, Spelt Corn, Gluten, Graham, Wheat (Bulgur, Durum, Sprouted, white and whole, Germ and Bran) farina, Oat, Seven-grains, or any products such as flour, bread and noodles made with these grain products
Vegetables These vegetables inhibit the thyroid function for Type Os
Brassica family: Cabbage, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, mustard greens
These vegetables help blood clot, Type Os lack several clotting fractors and need vitamin K to assist in the process Kale, collard greens, romaine lettuce, broccoli, spinach
These vegetables irritate the digestive tract and the high mold count can aggravate Type O hypersensitivity problems.
Alfalfa sprouts, shiitake mushrooms, fermented olives
These vegetables can cause arthritic conditions in Type Os
Nightshades: eggplant, potatoes
This vegetable affect the production of insulin, often lead to obesity and diabetes for the Type Os.
Corn
This fruit agglutinate all blood types but Type Os.
Tomatoes
Artichoke, Chicory, Dandelion, Garlic, Horseradish, Kale, Leek, Okra, Onions, Parsley, Parsnips, Red Peppers, Sweet potatoes, Pumpkin, seaweed, turnips All kinds except those listed not allowed avocado
Fruits Dark red, blue and purple fruits tend to cause an alkaline reaction the digestive tract, and therefore balance the high acidity of the Type Os digestive tract to reduce ulcers and irritations of the stomach lining. Plums, prunes, figs
These fruits contain high mold counts which can aggravate Type Os hypersensitivity problems (allergies)
Melons, cantaloupe, honeydew
These fruits are high in acid content which may irritate the acidic stomach of Type Os
Grapefruit, most berries Oranges, tangerines and strawberries, blackberries, Rhubarb
Fruits are not only an important source of fiber, minerals and vitamins, but they can be an excellent alternative to bread and pasta for Type Os
All kinds except those listed not allowed
Type Os are extremely sensitive to this fruit.
coconut and coconut-containing products
Spices Rich source of Iodine to regulate the thyroid gland Kelp-based seasonings, iodized salt
Soothing to the digestive tracts of Type Os Parsley, curry, cayenne pepper
Irritants to the Type O stomach
White and black pepper, vinegar, capers, cinnamon, Cornstarch, Corn syrup, Nutmeg, Vanilla
Condiments
Ketchup, pickles, mayonnaise, relish
Beverages
Seltzer water, Club soda and tea
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Re: moRe: New and Clueless
Mon, November 20, 2006 - 7:05 AMI would be remiss if I did not mention another website I came upon during my research. As with everything you find "nay sayers" and "yay sayers". When I receive information or am curious I do my best to look up both sides and then try to go with instinct as well as science. What discourages me along the path would be absolute proof that what one boasts is in fact ill written, un-researched, or flat out a gimmick. The title of the following doctors thesis or documentary is along the lines of "Diet Scam". But, I read on... And I have to say that what they stated scientifically and how well researched "it seemed" was alarming. Therefore, I bring it to you as a little over half of America are Type O's. It is lengthy but important in its own right. If you can't read all of it, try to skim thorugh the "Legs" listed below.
The Blood Type Diet: Latest Diet Scam
by
Deirdre B. Williams, N.D.
John J. McMahon, N.D.
We are naturopathic physicians. We are also vegan as are our children. The practice of naturopathy as originally described by Dr. Benedict Lust includes "the elimination of...habits such as over-eating, alcoholic drinks and...meat eating" (Joseph Pizzorno, N.D. & Michael Murray, N.D., Encyclopedia of Natural Medicine, Prima Publishing, Rocklin, CA, 1991,p.5). When we attended the John Bastyr College of Naturopathic Medicine (now Bastyr University) the work of Henry Lindlahr, M.D. was required reading. Dr. Lindlahr defined the philosophy of Nature Cure or naturopathy as favoring a "strict vegetarian diet" because of the "morbid nature" of the "alkaloids of putrefaction" which "every piece of animal flesh is saturated with" (Henry Lindlahr, M.D., Nature Cure, Nature Cure Publishing, Chicago, Illinois, 1924, p.273).
Peter D'Adamo, N.D. has recently published a popular book in which he encourages a diet based on his interpretation of the ABO blood groups and health. This blood type diet theory encourages daily consumption of animal flesh by people of blood type O and blood type B. Together these two blood types make up between 56% and 69% of population of the United States (Kickler et al in The Principles and Practice of Medicine, 22nd edition, Appleton, Norwalk, CT, 1988, p.465). Schools of naturopathic medicine have begun to include this theory in their curriculum and our colleagues often recommend a diet including daily consumption of animal flesh to vegan/vegetarian patients of blood type O or B.
The wise, health-promoting nutritional advice offered by the vegetarian doctors who defined naturopathy as well as the recent research detailing the benefits of vegan/vegetarian diet on our kind done by Pritikin & Ornish (heart), Wahlqvist and Aldercreutz (menopause), Lindahl (asthma), Barsotti (kidney disease), the Farm Collective (uncomplicated home births) and Chen, Peto et al (general health, cancer) is being ignored by naturopathic physicians who subscribe to the blood type diet theory.
We feel this is a mistake.
The foundation for the blood type diet theory is comprised of three "legs" as the author himself points out. As we read them the individual legs contain inaccuracies which render each one scientifically and logically flawed. The diet theory they support is, then, rendered invalid.
"Leg One" is the lectin hypothesis. The foods we eat contain lectins. Because of how lectins clump (or "agglutinate") other molecules they have the capacity to create health problems for human beings. Botulism toxin has a lectin, ricin, that is so deadly you would never encourage someone to consume it. On page 27 of the book explaining the blood type diet, it is stated that certain lectins "agglutinate cells in the affected blood type" as "visible under the microscope". The author assumes that this same clumping seen in office on a slide beneath a microscope occurs in the bodies of people of particular blood type, making them unwell if they don't choose their foods as recommended by the blood type diet theory. Extrapolating from results observed in a test done on a laboratory slide to effects in a human being has several disadvantages. Observed in vitro morphological changes in blood are controversial regarding their "validity and reproducibility" as well as "the most common criticism" that "the technique is susceptible to the subjective judgments of technicians and that the methods used by different labs produce widely varying results" (Stephen Barrie, N.D. in A Textbook of Natural Medicine by Joseph Pizzorno, N.D. and Michael Murray, N.D., John Bastyr College Publications, Seattle 1987, Sect II Supplemental Diagnostic Procedures, p. II:FoodAl 2).
A laboratory slide differs significantly from the environment of the intestine. This is especially important when you realize that fasting or abstinence from alcohol will alter intestinal villus morphology and brush border membrane enzymes (Can J Physiol Pharmacol, 1985 Oct, 63:10, 1312-20) and that the combination of foods chosen at a meal will alter transport properties of individual nutrients due to changes in the composition of brush membrane lipids (Diabet Res, 1991 Mar, 16:3, 127-38). These important changes in tissue, enzymes, absorption and transport at the intestinal tract will not be mirrored in a slide of blood taken from the arm or fingertip. Additionally and perhaps most importantly, in response to in vivo challenge of the gastrointestinal tract with a food, human beings produce natural antibodies to dietary lectins such as soy, wheat and peanut. These antibodies do not interfere with the agglutination properties of the lectins but they are a significant part of our immune repertoire (FEBS Lett, 1996 Nov, 397:2-3, 139-42). The in vivo protection against any potential lectin-induced damage afforded by such antibodies is not quantifiable or apparently observable by in vitro microscopic analysis of agglutination, so an investigator or technician would miss it. Analogously, if we saw a house ablaze in a section of a city with closely-packed homes without knowing there was a nearby and reliable fire department, we could erroneously assume that an entire block of homes would go up in flames. This is decidedly not the case in nearly every major metropolitan area. Similarly, conclusions drawn about the impact of soy, peanut and wheat lectins from observed agglutination on a slide without knowing the extent of the innate protection our bodies generate in response to these lectins are most likely mistaken.
"Leg Two" of the blood type theory addresses the effect of foods on each blood type with regards to their interactions with intestinal bacteria and the mucous secretions of the gut (the largest source of blood type antigens other than red blood cells). This is referred to as the "polyamine part". Polyamines are chemicals which can be measured by a urine indican test. The urine indican test, as employed by conventional labs and some natural health doctors, does reflect bacterial activity in the small and large intestines. Elevated levels of urine indicans are considered, by some natural health care doctors, to be an indicator of "intestinal toxemia" and "overgrowth of anaerobic bacteria" (Dirk Powell, N.D. in A Textbook of Natural Medicine by Joseph Pizzorno, N.D. and Michael Murray, N.D., Section II Supplemental Diagnostic Procedures, p. II :Indic-1).
The conditions which, according to Dirk Powell, N.D., are confirmed as resulting in elevated levels of urine indican are the following: "inflammatory bowel disease, celiac disease, hypochlorhydria, gastric ulcer, biliary & intestinal obstruction, jejunal diverticulosis, scleroderma, gastrectomy, Hartnup's disease, pancreatic insufficiency, diminished peristalsis and blue diaper syndrome". Urine indican is recognized as valuable for detecting intestinal integrity, absorption and protein catabolism (Jacobs et al, Laboratory Test Handbook, Mosby, St Louis, 1984, p. 589). It is possible to draw oblique conclusions about the impact of diet on colon health using the urine indican test. The blood type diet theory hypothesizes, as stated on pages 27-8 of the book, that the urine indican test "shows that a carcinogen entering your system is magnified to ninety times the effect of someone for whom it is not toxic". There is no evidence that we could find which substantiates this remark. Also, there is evidence that enzymes such as intestinal transglutaminase, secreted in response to certain lectins, repair lectin-induced damages to the microvilli and gut epithelium (Biochem Biophys Acta, 1996 Nov, 1314:1-2, 66-70). In so doing these enzymes would inhibit and occasionally eliminate the potential for the chronic intestinal inflammation, bacterial overgrowth and illness ascribed to eating "wrong" for your blood type.
"Leg Three" addresses the secretory differences with regard to digestive juices (enzymes & acids) amongst the blood types. On page XVI of the blood type book, it is explained that higher than average stomach acid levels are to be expected in people with blood type O. The tendency of this blood type to peptic ulcer of the duodenum is cited as evidence of this. The book also notes, on page XVI, that in the practice of the naturopathic doctor who first coined the blood type theory it was observed that "type O patients did well on animal products and protein diets --- foods that require more stomach acid for proper digestion". It is known that not all men and women of blood type O hypersecrete HCl, a considerable percent secrete normal levels of stomach acid and some hyposecrete stomach acid; peptic ulcer of the duodenum does not have to be coincident with excess secretion of stomach acid and the localized rather than diffuse histopathology of a peptic ulcer of the duodenum cannot be explained as due to only excess stomach acid secretion, something additional is adversely affecting the duodenal health of patients so prone (McGuigan in "Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine" 13th edition & McKusick in "The Principles & Practice of Medicine" by Harvey, 22nd edition). Dietary strategies for type O patients as outlined by the blood type theory are intended, in large part, to treat people who hypersecrete stomach acid. As we have explained this is often not the case and such diet strategies will not be appropriate care for quite a number of people who are blood type O.
More to our focus as regards "Leg Three", stomach acid does not digest protein, pepsin does. On page 55 of the blood type diet book it is stated that "type O's can efficiently digest meats" (animal flesh)"because they tend to have high stomach acid content". Hydrochloric acid is necessary for the conversion of pepsinogen (inactive) to pepsin (active). Nonetheless it is pepsin which is responsible for protein digestion, not stomach acid. The optimum pH for pepsin's protein-digesting activity is 2.0, a gastric pH consistent with what is realized by most non-doudenal ulcer patients. When the pH of the stomach drops to below 2.0 and especially at a pH of less than 1.5 (a pH more consistent with HCl hypersecretion) pepsin becomes demonstrably less effective at digesting protein (Lehninger, Biochemistry 2nd edition, p.196). Theoretically a person who hypersecretes HCl would be less able to digest protein. Given this, a "one size fits all" diet theory lumping every blood type O person into a HCl hypersecretor/high animal protein diet will not be health promoting.
A second aspect of the "Third Leg" of the blood type diet theory involves the blood type variability in the secretion of intestinal alkaline phosphatase. Blood type O and B secrete this enzyme while its secretion is negligible in the other two blood types. The blood type diet theory contends that intestinal alkaline phosphatase is an enzyme whose primary function is to split cholesterol and long chain fatty acids. On his website, the author of the blood type theory has stated that intestinal alkaline phosphatase is "an enzyme whose sole function is to break down dietary cholesterol" (11/13/97 post at 07:17:24 by author to S. Shapiro). This is not true. In the 1960's intestinal alkaline phosphatase was believed to be involved in lipid absorption, due to its ability to hydrolyze phosphate esters. In the 1970's reports suggested a different primary function for intestinal alkaline phosphatase, namely, that it is involved in calcium absorption (Gastroenterology, March 1972 62:3, P. 452-8). Observations by the researchers Norman and Hanssler independently confirmed a two to three-fold increase in intestinal alkaline phosphatase activity after vitamin D administration coupled with a rise in calcium transport. Recently intestinal alkaline phosphatase has been shown to also play an important role in thiamin transphosphorylation (Arch Physiol Biochem, 1995 Apr, 103:1, 33-8) and the hydrolysis of FMN and FAD in addition to being involved in riboflavin transport (Int J Vitam Nutr Res, 1983, 53:1, 109-14). At the very least intestinal alkaline phosphatase is involved in much more than the function heralded by the blood type theory. The possible significance of its varying secretion re: blood type to an involvement in cholesterol metabolism is overemphasized by the blood type theory to support an unhealthy recommendation for cholesterol-laden animal proteins.
In our opinion, the blood type theory of diet doesn't have a leg to stand on.
Deirdre B. Williams, N.D.
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moRe: moRe: New and Clueless 2
Mon, November 20, 2006 - 11:07 AMWonderWoman, this article raises interesting points and questions. In fact, after lengthy discussion with my nutritionist, I abandoned the strict ER4YBT diet in favor of one focused on metabolic balance. While this lifestyle eating choice does bear some resemblance to the ER diet, it is based upon a broader scope of factors than blood type alone. After adopting this "diet" (which includes supplements) for three months, my husband went from a diagnosis of borderline high cholesterol and boardline diabetes to a clean bill of health -- prior to the doctor's diagnosis, we were certain we were eating healthy!
If you are interested in metabolic balance and would like to know more about my nutritionist, PM me and I'll send you his info; I don't want anyone to think I'm spamming!
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Re: moRe: moRe: New and Clueless 2
Fri, December 8, 2006 - 5:12 AMdear wonderwoman
what you point out as scientific research regarding the arguments in eat right 4 your type seem valid on the surface. I have heard this from many scientifically minded readers of that particular book,- and on a point by point basis it may seem you are right.
however: chinese medicine is very old, very reputed, although little scientific research in a western sense has been made or indeed confirmed it. it is however now recognized by all western society health insurers as a valid and results bringing form of medicine. sometimes western science just isnt equipped yet to measure causes and reasons of a process, that doesnt necessarily mean it doesnt work. empirical data is the only real data,- since what we are discussing here are practical life improvement issues.
I know tht the japanese would never dream of ignoring their blood type when chosing foods, biorythm, sports or even life partners. any legal or official document will feature the blood type, and not just for emergency reasons.
japans culture is heavily based and influenced by chinese medicine/culture, and I think they have some wisdom to offer, even if not always explicable in western terms
my own personal experience has also been that the diet featured in the book is roughly right for me, and I had identified many of the no-no's for me prior to reading it (moving from vegetarian, to vegan, to macrobiotic to finally this), and it just confirmed my own personal experiences
I would also suggest to give it a chance,- and if eating meat seems repulsive to you, it may have much more to do with our meat obsessed culture (especially america!) than eating meat in small quantities as the chinese or japanese traditionally do.. or perhaps the miserable farming conditions.. where an organic happy animals farm would be preferrable of course.
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Re: moRe: moRe: New and Clueless 2
Sat, December 9, 2006 - 10:51 AMJana,
Thanks for your thoughts. One thing I wanted to add is that the BTD is totally founded in Western scientific method. If you go to d'Adamo's website, you can see how he backs everything up with research by various scientists. While the foundation of BTD is all about epidemiology (looking at each blood group statistically), there are also a lot of studies that have been done on the chemical reactions between blood type and different foods. Western science is always changing and evolving though. It's not at all static. I believe that ancient practices like Chinese medicine and Ayurveda are also sciences, but are based in ancient cultures that have a different world-view, so it's harder for us to understand how they work. In this way, BTD is much more accessible.
I have to admit I didn't read the article challenging BTD. Maybe if I have time I will read it and respond with my limited understanding. In general, I don't read copied and pasted stuff because I'd much rather hear the original poster's thoughts rather than something they found somewhere.
DR
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Mon, November 20, 2006 - 4:21 PMWonderW,
The best way to start is to get Live Right 4 Your Type, in my opinion. It's got all the food lists and other important info. My recommendation is to try it out fairly strictly for about a month, as an experiment. As with anything, your own body is the best judge of what works and what doesn't. The BTD is based on the principle that we are not all genetically the same, and so there's no catch-all diet that works for everyone. Even within each blood type there are genetic variations. Personally, I have found the BTD to work great, and it has resolved most of my previous health issues. I am not very strict about it, however. Most of the stuff I get for the home is blood type friendly, and I cook at home a lot. But when I go out to eat, I don't always follow it. And I'm not that picky about minor ingredients in things. I am a blood type A who used to suffer from a lot of digestive issues, skin issues, and anxiety issues. All of that has vastly improved, along with my energy levels and mood. I have been practicing the BTD with varying degrees of strictness for over four years now. As I said before, you can trust your own body to show you the way to better health. But it's an ongoing experiment, because there are so many factors in life it can be hard to tell what's causing physical wellness or physical ailments. Sticking strictly to the BTD for a month should be enough for you to decide if it's really for you. And after that you can use the information however you like.
My two cents,
David Ray