Type O here...

topic posted Thu, January 8, 2004 - 6:40 PM by  Rev. Orbb
What a huge jump from vegetarian (alright, I ate fish...so what???) to the Type O diet. But I've enjoyed improved health, higher energy and better tone ever since.

Any other success stories? I'm guessing yes since there are a few folks already here...
posted by:
Rev. Orbb
Portland
  • Re: Type O here...

    Wed, February 18, 2004 - 7:15 PM
    I'm a type A. I was eating beef stews and cooking pot roasts and grwing like a blimp. I finally had to realize meat was out of the question for me. i feel so much better it is unbelievable it was as though my mind was being captured by quicksand and cutting out the meat let my mind rise high and clear and I now have much more energy.

    I allow myself a little lil bit of meat now and then such as anchovey fillets in a salad and I actually had some boiled chicken last night because i was making stock without any problem. These instances are few and far between.

    I have also given up all dairy incl cheese which was really hard for me. BUT in doing without it gets all this baby fat off me and since Jan when I started i have lost 13 lbs.
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    Mon, February 23, 2004 - 3:44 PM
    Hi, just joined this tribe.

    I've heard positive things about this diet from my dance sisters over the past year. I've been wondering about it and finally found some of the books on it a couple of week ago. I bought the Type O supplement paperback. Which is probably backwards--that's all I know about the diet. However, I work better with the dos and don't before the whys.

    I'm not a vegetarian but I've always avoided red meat. I feel like I'm surrounded with bread and potato products. I'm aware of the Sugerbusters diet so the Type O is not far from it in regards to what I can eat. It's going to slow road to change.

    I'm interested in hearing about other stories of adapting to the diet, etc. Maybe we need to have each blood type have their own thread. Just kidding.
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      Mon, February 23, 2004 - 6:35 PM
      Yeah, i can see your point. The grain vegetarians dont want to hear about the O's grilled chicken and steaks and poached salmon. No trespassing on my veggies.
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    Tue, February 24, 2004 - 11:40 AM
    I am type B and I was recomended this plan by my doctor. It seemed too complicated at first, but he also gave me some wise advise to go along with it. He said that if you can do 80% or the plan 80% of the time you will be alot better off than before. In my first year I took off about 50 lbs, just from changing what I eat. Since then I have added excercise to my regimine and have lost another 20 lbs.
    I still find it difficult to follow and often end up ignoring the rules of no wheat or corn products, lets face it those are in everthing! But I know it is worth while. I too, would love to hear more stories of success.
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      Tue, February 24, 2004 - 11:31 PM
      that's funny as a type A I have no problem giving up corn and wheat . i am much more tempted by meat but i must say that after a month of not eating it the desire is lessening. Have you ever tried Ezekial Bread? Sold in health food stores found in the freezer this bread is no longer a carb but a protein made from sprouted grains of millet, rye, rice , lentils, pulses etc. it is scrumptious, tastes akin to a nutty whole wheat. it does something special to ones insides upon ingesting.
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        Wed, February 25, 2004 - 8:37 AM
        I have tried the Ezekiel bread. I don't care for it. I love bready stuff, but it's the light weight, light colored stuff that I crave. Potatoe breads, sourdoughs... doughnuts, those sorts of things. I don't do many sandwiches or much of anything that calls for sliced bread on a regular basis so my wheat issue is really about bagels, cereals and many other things that I shouldn't be having while I'm on a diet anyway.
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          Wed, February 25, 2004 - 7:51 PM
          yeah,its a problem especially now that everything is GMO and all kellogs are sugar or aspartame. So there is oatmeal with soy milk and the kind i like has sugar and carageenen. I love croissants and can go thru a box in no time.

          i end up having vegetables for breakfast but since you are a type O why I'd start out with some grilled salmon and asparagus.
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            Thu, February 26, 2004 - 7:39 AM
            I'm a Type B actually, so that means soy is an issue too. Grrrrr! it's all so complicated, but I know it works when I use it!

            mmmmmm croissants
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        Thu, February 26, 2004 - 1:20 PM
        Heh, heh, funny you bring up the Ezekial bread. Yesterday was my first adventure buying Essene (manna) bread. I didn't have any luck but I bought the Ezekial bread because it didn't have wheat. Haven't tried it yet. I'm keeping it in the fridge, is that the best place and how long is too long?

        Ugh, basically as a Type O person it's seems like no bread, corn, potatoes or dairy. I know that's a generalization but that's what it feels like. I've surrounded my entire meals around dairy (to get calcium) and crave all the others. It's almost like a cruel diet but I know utimately it's suppose to be good for me.

        Speaking of calcium, if there are any other female Type O's out there, what are you doing about calcium? I've been taking a tums every day, is that enough?
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          Fri, February 27, 2004 - 12:02 PM
          Since I didn't much care for the Ezekiel bread I have been on the lookout for the Essene bread for quite awhile. I haven't ever found any though. If anyone here knows where to find it I would sure appreciate hearing about it.

          As far as how to keep the Ezekiel bread: yes, it should be kept refridgerated. I have found that it is subject to mold much faster than the average loaf you get from the grocery. When kept in the fridge it should be good for at least a week.
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            Tue, March 2, 2004 - 5:21 PM
            I was wrong. I didn't find Ezekiel bread. I found Manna bread. It's all so foreign to me. Manna appears to be a brand name. I bought rye because it didn't have wheat in it. I can't say I'm thrilled with it. It's very dense. I've been eating it with almond butter. Not a great combo. I'll keep searching for Ezekiel and Essene.
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              Tue, September 7, 2004 - 4:46 PM
              Mana bread is similar to Ezekial and Essene. They are all made of sprouted grains, just different recipes. The recipe for Ezekial supposedly comes from the Bible. Sprouted grains are easier to digest and more nutritious than regular cooked grains. You do not have to cook them as much because they are already digestable.

              I do not really crave bread or baked goods very much. I do like to have pasta. At home it is rice pasta. When I go out I have to make a choice whether I want to eat wheat. Refined wheat is supposedly OK for type A, but I still have digestive issues if I eat too much. Maybe I am allergic and/or have a slight case of celiac's.

              There is a great wheat-free and gluten-free bakery here in Seattle called The Flying Apron. They are delicious. They cook a lot of stuff with chickpea flour, so it is not totally right for type A.

              Boom
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              Sun, March 20, 2005 - 4:52 PM
              try going to a health food store...like Trader Joe's. OR look online and see if there is a Wild Oats Near you...they have all the locations on their
              website.
              • Re: Trader Joe's

                Sat, June 11, 2005 - 1:03 PM
                Ha ha ha! I laugh that you called Trader Joe's a health food store. That is a bit funny. They have great prices on wine and some of their food is admittedly healthy but for the longest time they were totally reluctant to even investigate whether some of the ingredients from their products might have GMO's. That was a few years ago and so maybe they changed their tune. Also, TJ's uses a HECK OF A LOT of plastic around EVERYTHING. I mean. what's up with the plastic wrapped vegetables?!? that is totally ridiculous if you ask me. I would say they are 50/50. Some of what they sell is healthy, and some of what they sell could be anyone's guess. Same with Wild Oats although they are *slightly* better but too dang expensive overall.

                Anyways back to Type O discussion now...thanks I am enjoying that too.
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          Fri, February 27, 2004 - 8:02 PM
          NONONO dont take TUMs bad very baad willmake acid much worse then you need more TUMsand soon so long down six feet under. Calcum does not come from milk its a trick scientists have played on our mothers. it was a and is a form of modification by putting calcium in there. When in fact you get your calcium the same place cows do from the grass and anthing that grows there with green leaves that you eat. Dandelions have even moree calcium than milk , dandelion greens alsohave more vitamin A than a carrot.

          Kale, mustard greens, collards, thats where you can find your best calcium source. Not milk and especially today all dairy productas are so lacking in omega 3's that they cause indigestion and acid reflux and all kinds of gut problems and then skin problems. have some well made aged cheese and hopefull with raw milk. Dairy brings on mucus called in ancient days cattarh. and the mucas gets into the intestines and binds them so its sticky gluey mess that stays stuck to your colon and becomes hard as baked on rubber. It also gets into joints and hardens and causes arthritis.

          some calcium rich hderbsare...slippery elm, marshmallow, golden seal, fenugreek seed....alfafa, plantain, horsetail, oatstraw, wheat grass, hops,,,,yarrow, mullein, plantain, rehmannia.... these are group combinations used for specific treatments depending on what might be most wrong.. such as the yarrow one is best used for lungs, and upperrespiratory.

          and listen dont be cheap your body needs calcium and calcium tablets are the way to go calcium with magnesium you need that too and vitamin D. itused to be 2: 1 ration for cal/mag now they say its 2:2 i dont know what foods have magnesium in them but please dont take TUMS. If you do his diet right you shouldnt have cravings. Have plenty of meat although you realize you are at risk nowadays for madcow disease which is now in every form of meat inclpork and chicken and lamb. and that is the latest news. Be well. Buy from locsl farms who support cow share....a few people get together and buy a whole side of a cow and split up the meat.. a cow that is that has been grazing and not one that is grain fed. Buy tour butter from there or buy whole unpasturized milk and make your own butter put in in a blender and presto.
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            Fri, February 27, 2004 - 8:07 PM
            OK Ezekiel. Well ive pretty much given up sandwiches myself. but i do love the bread. i keep it in the freezer. It goes bad like any other bread getting moldy so i take a few pieces out at a time and i have promised myself i will get a bread box thank you for reminding me.. because i leave out the pieces to dry out and then i break them up and dunk them in soups or have been known to fry them in olive oil with garlic and the like. ummm, Test for yourself on how long it lasts before going moldy and how much you use ina week.
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              Tue, March 9, 2004 - 11:50 AM
              Another excellent type of bread is the brown rice bread. Pretty useless for sandwiches (too small and moist) but it makes a wonderful toast. Put some of your favorite spread on it (I still use a little butter) and it makes a great addition to your breakfast.

              As for calcium through food...the dark greens that were mentioned are all good and there are also dairy substitutes for cheese, butter and ice cream that work great, but some may be an acquired taste for you. I've also found some great wheat substitutes for some of those things that I found so hard to give up:

              rice or spelt pasta
              Amy's makes a great mac & cheese with rice macaroni (unfortunately, they also make a mac & soy cheese, but it's an either/or proposition on the rice pasta and soy cheese)
              mochi-pounded brown rice mixture that can be baked and used for many things, including a pizza crust...

              good luck...

              And I noticed on the type O program that I can't eat any barracuda! I never felt the lack until they told me NO!!!
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          Fri, March 12, 2004 - 7:52 PM
          ezekial bread since it is made from sprouted pulses is no longer a carbohydrate , that is its advantage..it digests as complex protein and so therefor is also a complement to meat wheras any other bread would not.
  • Re: Type O here...

    Fri, March 12, 2004 - 7:10 AM
    Hi, I'm new to this tribe.

    I'm an O and have been on and off the diet for a few years. When I first started, I was very strict, I wouldn't go near wheat or corn for anything in the world and ate as much beef and spinach as possible. I was able to eat about twice as much as I usually ate and became the leanest I've been. Unfortunately, I fell of the wagon when I went to visit my family in Europe. I tried to get my dad to cook the spelt pasta I brought especially for the trip but you can't teach an old dog new tricks. After that trip I've been struggling with the diet, on a few weeks, then off again and my weight is fluctuating as a result. I have to say that wheat is my biggest weakness on the type O plan, I can go without most of the other avoids, but wheat is nearly impossible.
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      Fri, March 12, 2004 - 12:07 PM
      Yeah...I've run into the whole "backsliding translates into cravings" issue as well. Both wheat and corn are tough for me to avoid entirely...although I'm better with wheat (still can't seem to avoid popcorn at the movies dammit...). Dairy isn't much of an issue and I'm looking to get really solid on the basics before worying too much about the fine tuning.

      My one fear with the high consumption of red meat is how that's affecting my vascular system...
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        Fri, March 12, 2004 - 2:13 PM
        Hi, Orbb, how do you handle the red meat transition from being a vegetarian? I'm finding it hard to "choose" to eat red meat.
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          Fri, March 12, 2004 - 2:53 PM
          Well, truth be told (since we're all friends here...*grin*), I found that I craved it pretty consistently during the five years that I was a vegetarian. Now I don't want to confuse the purists...I did eat fish, just no mammals.

          It was hard for me to make the choice, as I was convinced that what I was doing was "the right thing to do". But, ultimately, I was a vegetarian for my health and, through the book, I became convinced that my health demanded other behavior. What I knew about myself as a veggie was that my energy was down, my tone was gone and I was a bit pudgy...not things I expected from that path.

          When I decided to eat meat again, I approached it slowly and gradually...started with poultry and moved into beef from there (no pork at all). I cook it enough to make sure it's safe, but rarely over medium rare. At one point, I was eating it 4 to 6 times a week...and I think that's too much. I'm down to 2 or 3 times a week now, and that seems to work. I was eating roast beef sandwiches on ezekiel bread every day...that was actually pretty good, but the same old thing gets boring after awhile...

          What helped me make the "choice", as you put it, was once I understood that this was the way toi go, I put my trust in the process and just eased into it. If it's wrong for you, your body will let you know...all you have to do is listen...
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          Sun, March 20, 2005 - 4:56 PM
          you can eat plenty of fish...you don't have to eat red meat. besides fish
          is healthier for you than red meat. if you'd like more info about this let me know and I can tell you where you can read about it.
    • Re: Type O here...

      Mon, April 12, 2004 - 6:50 PM
      I have to agree with Freyja. When I am was on the diet, I look the best I have ever looked in my life, and I felt great too. It is funny, but I can tell what blood type people are (for the most part) just by the kinds of foods they crave. I think of it as my anecdotal evidence for the validity of this diet.

      PS. Ezekial bread gets old after a while, it is just too wierd. But whole grain wheat free rye works. Also Bless Spelt Pasta, it is a great replacement.
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    Re: Type O here...

    Mon, May 17, 2004 - 4:59 AM
    another type O here. I have been skimming the book (and the recipe book) for a few weeks now, and gradually altering the ingredients of my kitchen. It has made a huge difference in how I feel. My sugar cravings have decreased dramatically. I feel energetic and my moods are just terrific...combined with spring this is a great natural high! I feel I have lost weight though I don't own a scale, I'll see next weekend when I visit my friends with the scale in their bathroom.

    It is a thrill that my partner and I are both type O and have started together. We have caveman humor and sayings now (WOMAN/MAN NEED MEAT!) and instead of cooking or shopping, we hunt and gather (in the kitchen and grocery store). I like that we are gradually using up the carbo/non-beneficial foods we have left laying around. it is easing us into it. each time one runs out we have to go put an alternative on the shopping list.

    the best part is not being grossed out by him sitting around eating oreos and doritos all nite in front of the TV. he is much sexier cooking steak!

    may be back here for support soon. thanks for existing.
    primitive muncher

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